so i do think that if you got say obama and boehner or romney and reid together with a relatively small number of people, you could exercise some pretty serious presidential leadership even with all the other thing going on in the country we talked about. >> rose: tom just joined us. go ahead tom. >> i'll just add to david's point i think when jon meacham 20 years from now writes the biography of president obama for his term there will certainly be a chapter that will be titled how could it be that barack obama turned out to be the worst communicating modern president in american history. and i think that's been himself has acknowledge that he had no narrative. i think that part of it was he was reacting to the hillary criticism, he just gives speeches. part of it he was truly focused on the substance of what he did. i would argue that it was not all just this noise thing. they had a very bad communication strategy and operation. there's a way of getting things across and repeating things. the way of explaining things like healthcare in a way americans would understand and appreciate. t